A DRINK FOR NEW ALBANY Roll out the barrel and turn down the light – We’re gonna vote wet and have a party tonight!
BEER VOTE – COMING this SPRING
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Very good job. Maybe one day the changes you have been sharing with others will become real and not just talk. Good Job Cindy. As already stated by another very smart women…you are the bomb!!!!
Wendy
Way to go Cindy! I so admire anyone that speaks what they believe to be the truth. Some are so short sighted and will never see the reality on this subject. So New Albany has always been dry?… Well, so many things change, and anyone knows …… where there is change,,, there is growth!
Good for you……
Robin
Great site! It’s about time there was another forum started. Maybe the Mayberrry blog will bring some informative soluctions to the growing problems in New Albany.
— Originally Post 235 on New Albany Talks. It would have been here, had the website existed. —
During my teenage years, I asked an adult friend why alcohol was illegal in New Albany, even though most citizens drank it occasionally. The response was, “the Prohibition generation has to pass on.”
Our beloved ancestry has left this realm.
It is time for the petition and we must do it right. Firstly, online petitions don’t count. More importantly, what will the petition propose? Only alcohol less than 5% to exclude wine and liquor or should all forms be legal? Will sale hours be noon to ten p.m. or midnight on Friday and Saturday? Sundays? How close to last call must restaurants serve food?
Or should we just make alcohol legal and let the city government be told how to legislate it as it has been done in the past?
I think the votes should decide.
By the successful and somewhat unsuccessful legislative examples of other cities, a solid alcohol regulation should be produced. When final deliberation becomes apparent, hopefully before any petition deadline, registered voters can gather on a lovely afternoon by the Tallahatchie and commit signatures leading to a November vote.
— Seriously folks, what hours, what days, and what percentages of alcohol content do we want available?
I love New Albany and would love seeing it become all it can be! We have the beauty for the newcomer or visitor to appreciate upon arrival with the old buildings, churches and lovely “old” neighborhoods.
Having nice ‘no chain’ restaurants in downtown or any where away from the food court around Walmart would be great, especially if wine or other spirited drinks were served.
NA Son has some great points pertaining to the proposed use of alcohol in our community. Perhaps we should create an organization promoting the personal responsiblities of alcohol vendors and consumers. We should stress that we are against driving under the influence, to forbid its sale and use to the underaged, to set resonable availability times and commercial zoning, alcohol content, and etc. I think if we show that we want to make it work safely more people would be inclined to support the issue. The opponents continue arguing their points, but they do little to nothing about the prevalent problems that we face with alcohol in our county, and although its sale and consumption is illegal. We need a tipsy taxi, public transit, or volunteer designated driver system in place right now. More AA groups or chemical dependency treatment centers are needed to counsel those in recovery. What more can we do to ensure safe use of alcohol now when it is being purchased from other areas? Locking everyone up in the Union County Jail is irrational because of capacity issues, the tax burden of locking everyone up, and the problems will still exist after they are released.
First and foremost, alcohol supporters must unite to move on this issue. The young aren’t going to vote it in….alone. The wealthy are not going to vote it in….alone. Together, young and old, wealthy and poor, and everyone in between, united, we can bring this issue to a successful vote. I now suggest a more proper name for an organization: Citizens for Responsible Alcohol Use (CRAU.org domain is available.) Now, let’s form the organization, raise some funds, print the t-shirts, register the voters, sign the petitions, vote it in, use it wisely, and help others who might struggle with its abuse.
The Board of Alderman and County Supervisors will determine what the vote will be. We should be like the old man who needed to borrow $5 but ask for $20 in hopes the boss would loan him $10.
The anti groups need to understand we are not about putting a liquor store on every corner or a honky tonk in every vacant building. Its not about disrupting everyday life.
Organization is a must, but I don’t think Tshirts and other public displays is such a good idea. We shouldn’t dangle our pursuit in the faces of those against this. I don’t think we should ad fuel to their fire. So many are intimidated now and that fear is only
going to grow stronger as this gets closer to reality.
Keep everything legal and in order and double check the signatures. Turn them in and see what our city and county government will do.
Since our organization would focus on the responsible use of alcohol, I feel that our commitment and offer to alleviate some existing issues would trump some of those negative feelings about our cause.
The opponents of alcohol in this county are somewhat naive. They don’t drink and, for this reason, most feel their neighbors are presently drinking, or should only drink, unspiked sodas, sweet tea, and tap or bottled water. Perhaps we should also promote the responsible use of sodas: limiting their use (they often have tons of sugar and caffeine), the proper disposal and/or recycling of their packaging (landfills, lakes, and oceans are teeming with cans and plastic), and other issues.
I’m trying to think of a way to reach the “backbone workers” of our county. T-shirts, huggies, and hats are effective marketing tools. Also, while wearing or using one of these products, we might remember our own commitments to the responsible consumption of alcohol and making our own community a better place to live.
PETITION PROPOSAL
Since public petitions are often stolen or tampered, I believe that petitions should be mailed, at a supporter’s request, to his home to sign in privacy. If he or she wants to sign the petition, they should send a self-addressed stamped envelope and $1 – $2 (to cover printing costs) to our organization (a P.O. box.) I’ll bet there are some people in this county who would donate their time and resources to this purpose. The county should be able to provide us with a list of every registered voter and their addresses. Using this list we could verify the person requesting the petition is a registered voter. We could send a post card to the unregistered voter and directions for registering to vote. After receiving and signing the petition, he or she should mail it back to a P.O. box. ANYONE WHO TAMPERS WITH THE PETITION THEN WOULD BE COMMITTING MAIL FRAUD AND COULD BE PROSECUTED AS A FELON.
Anyone with more suggestions please post them here.
We could also post the petitions on a website to be printed at home. After signing, the supporter would then mail the signed paper petition to the P.O. box.
Anyone with legal knowledge in forming a non-profit corporation in this state who would like to donate his or her services to this cause would be greatly appreciated. This could become a tax benefit to many of our constituents.
By the way, Mayberry was a wet town. In the Christmas episode, Ben Weaver has Rafe Hollister arrested for moonshining because his homeade liquour is taking away from Ben’s spirit sales at Weaver’s. Thought I would share that.
I think between you, Mr Barnes and all the “Mayberry” citizens that are for this proposal can really make a difference. I wish you all the luck in the world on making this happen. I am a resident of Pennsylvania, but when I come to New Albany, MS (I have and will again be a visitor) It would be nice to be able to have a glass of wine with dinner or maybe a beer and pizza while watching a movie at home while visiting. My husband and I visited New Albany for a week (Sept. 1999) while on our honeymoon and it would have been nice to be able to have a glass of champagne to celebrate our marriage. I’m not a drinker but I do like to have a drink occasionally. Good Luck!
Chrissy, I’m sorry you could not have champagne with strawberries, as is the tradition of many honeymooners.
I was similarly bothered by the notion that I was still an illegal consumer on my 21st birthday. I drank beer while underage, like most New Albanians, but the local prohibition of that federal right of passage was very disappointing.
To be an adult and still be told you are not capable of choosing whether or not to drink is the ultimate source of all this blogging. I hope that global viewers of this site can detect the massive number of progressive Christians in the region that realize the foolishness of dry policies.
Hopefully by this fall, I can buy you a drink in New Albany, if your husband’s cool with it.
Well there ya go Chrissy – You now have a good reason to come down for a visit. NA Son can buy you one or five of those blue margaritas like ya had at Applebees. And your husband can buy me a Bud Light or 6. BUT don’t wait on New Albany to get wet – it is still very possible Hell will freeze over first.
NA Son, I will take you up on that offer the next time I am in town, my husband said he doesn’t mind. We enjoy meeting new people and making friends along the way. Hopefully laws will have changed by then. Its a shame some people dont understand, just because you allow alcohol into your town doesn’t mean you will have deal with the drinking and driving issue anymore then it is an issue now. To me, I would think that it is more of a concern today with the county being “dry” then it would if alcohol was allowed and a taxi service was in place for that reason. I am sure there are folks in NA that enjoy coming home from work and having a beer or two even with the laws that are in place now, then you have those that have to travel 20 or so miles to Tupelo or where ever to be able to have that Midnight (blue) Margarita or a Bud Light with dinner out with friends because they are afraid to drink in their “dry” town. Either way, there are people drinking at home as we speak in NA, and there are those to afraid to even drink at home and heading down the road to a “wet” town to have their beverage of choice. I’m sorry your 21st birthday and right of passage as you put it was disapointing. I may be a terrible mother in some eyes after I state this, but, on my children’s 21st birthdays, I will be out at the bar with them, if they will be drinking and celebrating I will be there and sober to drive them home safely. It is responsibility that will make everything work. People that want to drink, will drink, DRY or WET town. Hope to meet you when I come to New Albany again and maybe we can all go out for a drink.
Does anyone else think printing petitions on the internet and sending them back in through the mail is the best way to get a response to this issue? If so, I would like to pursue this more and get the ball rolling. An organizational website can be built cheaply and would be a great way to get people interested. I’m even willing to pay to run some ads for a website in the papers, and hopefully some others will follow suite. Come on guys! We can wait no longer. Let’s make a commitment and stick to it.
Plus, I don’t want to undermine anything anyone is already doing. If someone is already doing this, let’s join them and support them. A few heads are better than one. We all need new ideas and how to employ them. I want to help, do you?
I’m not sure but was told Logan Rutledge has some petitions. Why don’t you contact him and get a copy and place it on here for starters. Folks can print one, fill it out and mail it back to him or whoever is in charge of keeping the safe
Just so you all know, the petition will be available this week. Keep checking the site for the release. Get all of your friends and family to sign so we can finally vote on this issue. Again, people for and against legalization may sign. The petition is neutral. It’s your time to sign.
Its a fine idea to be able to vote on alcohol in UC. My family and friends spend alot of time in Oxford. How nice it would be for NA to have some fun places with fabulous food especially around the downtown area. Kudos to UCUFP!
Seems to be a Bible Verse war going on at http://www.newalbanytalks.com. all the time. The prohibitionist can’t even represent the Bible correctly on what IT actually says about alcohol. Citizens are being threatened by some in local churches if they sign the petition.
Some seem to think that even taking a drink, having a glass a wine with dinner or a beer with a pizza or while watching a ball game or NASCAR race is sinful and is a one way ticket to hell.
It is sad that intellegent people will USE (misrepresent) the Word of God in order to support their personal opinions. While they must think those they are imposing their opinions upon are ignorant, WHAT is it saying about their thoughts on the intellegence of God?
Bring on your opinions but we will not allow the Bible to be misused or abused on this blog!
We are for progress in Union County.
The issue is legalizing the sell and possession of alcohol not whether you and your preacher have a disagreement over the interpretation of what the Bible says about it.
hy•poc•ri•sy-
1. a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess.
2. a pretense of having some desirable or publicly approved attitude.
Anybody read Mark Garrett’s Letter in the exchange?
Since he helps his son run a Newk’s Express Café in Oxford, it seems hypocritical to denounce alcohol, especially with Bud Light, Michelob Ultra, Coors Light, Miller Light, Heineken, Amstel Light and wine by the glass or by the bottle listed on the menu.
Mark argues: “the proponents paint a beautiful picture of the utopia that Union County will become with alcohol sales.”
This “straw-man” fallacy is reprehensible. No one has ever made this assumption. The argument has always been: Since most people are already drinkers and alcohols is possessed in New Albany homes, why not keep the revenues in the city and give businesses a chance to structure an entertainment facility that New Albanians have to leave the city in order to enjoy.
Another exert:
“the argument that we will get restaurants and new businesses and executives from Toyota and life will get so much better so we can ‘compete with Oxford and Tupelo’…
… if you want a small town atmosphere, close community ties, family oriented, and free from alcohol then there is one choice: New Albany.”
Since you have businesses in Tupelo and Oxford, we can all understand that your financial concerns are not primarily focused on New Albany, but to state it has an advantage through Prohibition is preposterous. I’d love to see the signs:
“We are the last dry bastion of hope. We know we’re sober, because it’s illegal!”
If NA becomes wet maybe Mark or his son will convert McAllisters into a Newk’s of New Albany and Bryant’s into an Oby’s or Ajax. Or Coctails and Dreams!
some people in this town would like for you to believe that they are wonderful saints by all that they do for this community. Well the truth is that most of them do all of this as a front….so that we can’t actually see what there ulterier motives are. Some of the people that yall put on a padestal in this town because they own a bunch of RESTURANTS (and do volunteer work for the community), or donated a park downtown, are actually out for themselves only. Not the good of the county. These people spend probably hundreds of thousands of dollars in other countys instead of spending it here. I know this fact to be true becuase I have witnessed it first hand. They would scrw over Union County in a heartbeat if it meant they would get something in return. Ohh and by the way Most of them drink occasionally. But they sing gosphel so its O.K.
And by the way these businessmen want you to do business at their places but they wont do business with you…Even though your the only business of that type in union county. They buy from Lee county…..First hand knowledge of this also.
Personal attacks should be avoided. I am excited that we may finally get to vote for or against alcohol. There is no need for the fine people of Union County to lower themselves to the campaign smears we so often see among politicians.
Personal attacks are being confused with counterpoints. No one was personally ridiculed for personal choices or behaviors, but when someone writes a letter to the editor making an argument, anyone may publicly support or disagree with its content.
Part of the counterpoint in this case is that several opponents of alcohol legislation in New Albany either have stock or own businesses in wet city/counties. That type of bias would recuse them from being on the jury if said businesses are involved in a legal battle. Personal opinion of these citizens might not be totally created by profit interests, but any argument given on economic grounds would be tainted.
The original post should have more emphasized or started with a more important aspect. The notion that “the proponents paint a beautiful picture of the utopia that Union County will become with alcohol sales,” is untrue. As I previously posted, the argument has always been:
Since most people are already drinkers and alcohols is possessed in New Albany homes, why not keep the revenues in the city and give businesses a chance to structure an entertainment facility that New Albanians have to leave the city in order to enjoy.
The method of attacking an argument that was never made is a trend several opponents have pulled. If this fallacy went unchecked, observers might infer that the “utopian” point had actually been made and then disagree with proponents on the issue, even thought the proponents never made the claim.
When going to the polls gets closer the prohibitionist are sure to get ugly and become even more judgemental than they have been thus far. Those of us who desire progress should keep our focus on our goal and not get caught up in the non-Christian tactics and words coming from some.
As a Christian for progress in NA/UC who enjoys a drink, No one has the authority or qualifications to place judgement on me or anyone else for that matter for choices made. God is in control of the judging department.
I’m excited about the possibilities the future holds for our community. Let’s stay on the right track and not let others derail us from our goals.
Hello….. Is there anybody out there!!!!!b
Just nod if you can hear me!!!! Is there anyone home???? Relax…its just a little pin prick I can ease your pain, get you on your feet again.
There is no pain, you are receding, the distant ships smoke on the horizon. I turn to look but it was gone …. I cannot put my finger on it now, the child has grown , the dream is gone. And I…….. have become , comfortably numb.
I just really wish that I could treat my fiance to a nice meal at the really nice restaraunts she likes to dine without having to drive ALL the way to Tupelo or Oxford…
told ya we had way more than enough signatures…..and yall got mad at me and said that I was trying to sabotage this whole thing…you couldnt be further from the truth
Now it’s time to start campaigning! Economics – It’s not about moral opinions and Biblical interpretations – IT IS about Economics! The future in now! It is time for New Albany/Union County to open the doors of opportunity!
thanks for noone believing in me when I told you a long time ago that we had plenty of votes…Preciate it. And that goes for u too cindy!!!!! You had no faith in me either…haha. J/K peps. This is bulldog by the way cindy.
I knew there were enough signatures – I never doubted you! It was just a matter of keeping it quiet so others (prohibitionist)wouldn’t ROCK THE BOAT!
let’s move forward and get it voted in!
My heaters broke and I’m so tired. I need some fuel to build a fire. The girl next door her lights are out, yeah. The landlord gone and I’m down and out. Ohh, Its Cold Gin time again, you know it’ll always win. Cold Gin time again , you know its the only thing that keeps us together.
It’s time to leave and get another quart. Around the corner at the liquor store. The cheapest stuff is all I need. To get me back on my feet again
It’s Cold Gin time again. You know it’ll always win. It’s Cold Gin time again. You know it’s the only thing that keeps us together.
As I was goin’ over the Cork and Kerry mountains
I saw Captain Farrell and his money he was countin’
I first produced my pistol and then produced my rapier
I said stand and deliver or the devil he may take ya
I took all of his money and it was a pretty penny
I took all of his money yeah I brought it home to Molly
She swore that she’d love me, never would she leave me
But the devil take that woman for you know she treat me easy
Musha rain dum-a-do-dum-a-da
Whack for my daddy-o
Whack for my daddy-o
There’s whiskey in the jar-o
Being drunk and weary I went to Molly’s chamber
Takin’ my money with me and I never knew the danger
For about six or maybe seven in walked Captain Farrell
I jumped up, fired off my pistols and I shot him with both barrels
Musha rain dum-a-do-dum-a-da
Whack for my daddy-o
Whack for my daddy-o
There’s whiskey in the jar-o
Now some men like the fishin’ and some men like the fowlin’
And some men like ta hear, ta hear cannon ball a roarin’
Me I like sleepin’ specially in my Molly’s chamber
But here I am in prison, here I am with a ball and chain yeah
Musha rain dum-a-do-dum-a-da
Whack for my daddy-o
Whack for my daddy-o
There’s whiskey in the jar-o
Whiskey in the jar-o
Musha rain dum-a-do-dum-a-da
Musha rain dum-a-do-dum-a-da
Musha rain dum-a-do-dum-a-da…
forget debate….thats what we’ve been doing for months. I say lets just vote already. Let it lie till time to vote. Then pounce real hard and heavy so there can be no retaliation.
This vote DOES matter and those who want Union County and New Albany to catch up and keep up with those growing communities around us better get out and vote YES TO PROGRESS. With the nation’s economy in the shape it is, how can anyone with a clear mind think NA/UC can survive without CHANGE? Get out and encourage everyone to vote YES to progress! Your family, friends, neighbors and loved ones and even those you don’t like. The opportunity to end PROHIBITION could not come at a better time. We ALL know it is time for a CHANGE in Union County/New Albany.
Your VOTE is private! On November 4th vote how you choose. No body can print or publish your private vote. DO NOT be intimadated! It is a good thing to vote “FOR” progress – coming out from the dry law.
You have the RIGHT to vote!
A new order of “Vote FOR Progress” signs has been delivered to Tallahatchie Gourmet and Sugaree’s Bakery in downtown New Albany. Get your sign soon. They are going fast!
I will be voting FOR the citizens of Union County to have a reason to stay in Union County! I will be voting FOR keeping Union County money in Union County – I will be voting FOR local economic growth – I will be voting FOR more jobs and opportunities – I will be voting FOR Union County and New Albany to prosper – I will be voting FOR coming out of the dry law! Yes, I WILL be voting FOR progress!
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Very good job. Maybe one day the changes you have been sharing with others will become real and not just talk. Good Job Cindy. As already stated by another very smart women…you are the bomb!!!!
Wendy
Wendy - April 12, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Way to go Cindy! I so admire anyone that speaks what they believe to be the truth. Some are so short sighted and will never see the reality on this subject. So New Albany has always been dry?… Well, so many things change, and anyone knows …… where there is change,,, there is growth!
Good for you……
Robin
Robin - April 16, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Great site! It’s about time there was another forum started. Maybe the Mayberrry blog will bring some informative soluctions to the growing problems in New Albany.
jenny - April 19, 2008 at 10:00 am
— Originally Post 235 on New Albany Talks. It would have been here, had the website existed. —
During my teenage years, I asked an adult friend why alcohol was illegal in New Albany, even though most citizens drank it occasionally. The response was, “the Prohibition generation has to pass on.”
Our beloved ancestry has left this realm.
It is time for the petition and we must do it right. Firstly, online petitions don’t count. More importantly, what will the petition propose? Only alcohol less than 5% to exclude wine and liquor or should all forms be legal? Will sale hours be noon to ten p.m. or midnight on Friday and Saturday? Sundays? How close to last call must restaurants serve food?
Or should we just make alcohol legal and let the city government be told how to legislate it as it has been done in the past?
I think the votes should decide.
By the successful and somewhat unsuccessful legislative examples of other cities, a solid alcohol regulation should be produced. When final deliberation becomes apparent, hopefully before any petition deadline, registered voters can gather on a lovely afternoon by the Tallahatchie and commit signatures leading to a November vote.
— Seriously folks, what hours, what days, and what percentages of alcohol content do we want available?
NA son - April 20, 2008 at 6:57 pm
I love New Albany and would love seeing it become all it can be! We have the beauty for the newcomer or visitor to appreciate upon arrival with the old buildings, churches and lovely “old” neighborhoods.
Having nice ‘no chain’ restaurants in downtown or any where away from the food court around Walmart would be great, especially if wine or other spirited drinks were served.
Ann - April 25, 2008 at 5:36 pm
When can we VOTE? Tupelo alcohol rules seem to be working. I say do ours like them
Bill - April 25, 2008 at 5:40 pm
NA Son has some great points pertaining to the proposed use of alcohol in our community. Perhaps we should create an organization promoting the personal responsiblities of alcohol vendors and consumers. We should stress that we are against driving under the influence, to forbid its sale and use to the underaged, to set resonable availability times and commercial zoning, alcohol content, and etc. I think if we show that we want to make it work safely more people would be inclined to support the issue. The opponents continue arguing their points, but they do little to nothing about the prevalent problems that we face with alcohol in our county, and although its sale and consumption is illegal. We need a tipsy taxi, public transit, or volunteer designated driver system in place right now. More AA groups or chemical dependency treatment centers are needed to counsel those in recovery. What more can we do to ensure safe use of alcohol now when it is being purchased from other areas? Locking everyone up in the Union County Jail is irrational because of capacity issues, the tax burden of locking everyone up, and the problems will still exist after they are released.
First and foremost, alcohol supporters must unite to move on this issue. The young aren’t going to vote it in….alone. The wealthy are not going to vote it in….alone. Together, young and old, wealthy and poor, and everyone in between, united, we can bring this issue to a successful vote. I now suggest a more proper name for an organization: Citizens for Responsible Alcohol Use (CRAU.org domain is available.) Now, let’s form the organization, raise some funds, print the t-shirts, register the voters, sign the petitions, vote it in, use it wisely, and help others who might struggle with its abuse.
Ben Barnes - April 25, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Lets do it
Dave - April 25, 2008 at 9:06 pm
The Board of Alderman and County Supervisors will determine what the vote will be. We should be like the old man who needed to borrow $5 but ask for $20 in hopes the boss would loan him $10.
Jeff - April 25, 2008 at 9:37 pm
The anti groups need to understand we are not about putting a liquor store on every corner or a honky tonk in every vacant building. Its not about disrupting everyday life.
Jägermeister - April 26, 2008 at 12:02 am
Organization is a must, but I don’t think Tshirts and other public displays is such a good idea. We shouldn’t dangle our pursuit in the faces of those against this. I don’t think we should ad fuel to their fire. So many are intimidated now and that fear is only
going to grow stronger as this gets closer to reality.
Keep everything legal and in order and double check the signatures. Turn them in and see what our city and county government will do.
Turning Water to Wine - April 26, 2008 at 2:01 am
Since our organization would focus on the responsible use of alcohol, I feel that our commitment and offer to alleviate some existing issues would trump some of those negative feelings about our cause.
The opponents of alcohol in this county are somewhat naive. They don’t drink and, for this reason, most feel their neighbors are presently drinking, or should only drink, unspiked sodas, sweet tea, and tap or bottled water. Perhaps we should also promote the responsible use of sodas: limiting their use (they often have tons of sugar and caffeine), the proper disposal and/or recycling of their packaging (landfills, lakes, and oceans are teeming with cans and plastic), and other issues.
I’m trying to think of a way to reach the “backbone workers” of our county. T-shirts, huggies, and hats are effective marketing tools. Also, while wearing or using one of these products, we might remember our own commitments to the responsible consumption of alcohol and making our own community a better place to live.
PETITION PROPOSAL
Since public petitions are often stolen or tampered, I believe that petitions should be mailed, at a supporter’s request, to his home to sign in privacy. If he or she wants to sign the petition, they should send a self-addressed stamped envelope and $1 – $2 (to cover printing costs) to our organization (a P.O. box.) I’ll bet there are some people in this county who would donate their time and resources to this purpose. The county should be able to provide us with a list of every registered voter and their addresses. Using this list we could verify the person requesting the petition is a registered voter. We could send a post card to the unregistered voter and directions for registering to vote. After receiving and signing the petition, he or she should mail it back to a P.O. box. ANYONE WHO TAMPERS WITH THE PETITION THEN WOULD BE COMMITTING MAIL FRAUD AND COULD BE PROSECUTED AS A FELON.
Anyone with more suggestions please post them here.
Ben Barnes - April 26, 2008 at 6:09 am
PETITION PROPOSAL AMENDMENT:
We could also post the petitions on a website to be printed at home. After signing, the supporter would then mail the signed paper petition to the P.O. box.
Ben Barnes - April 26, 2008 at 6:28 am
LEGAL EXPERTISE NEEDED
Anyone with legal knowledge in forming a non-profit corporation in this state who would like to donate his or her services to this cause would be greatly appreciated. This could become a tax benefit to many of our constituents.
Ben Barnes - April 26, 2008 at 7:06 am
By the way, Mayberry was a wet town. In the Christmas episode, Ben Weaver has Rafe Hollister arrested for moonshining because his homeade liquour is taking away from Ben’s spirit sales at Weaver’s. Thought I would share that.
Andy - April 30, 2008 at 5:01 pm
This place gots potential if our leaders and citizens get with the program
Lee - May 4, 2008 at 5:46 pm
I think between you, Mr Barnes and all the “Mayberry” citizens that are for this proposal can really make a difference. I wish you all the luck in the world on making this happen. I am a resident of Pennsylvania, but when I come to New Albany, MS (I have and will again be a visitor) It would be nice to be able to have a glass of wine with dinner or maybe a beer and pizza while watching a movie at home while visiting. My husband and I visited New Albany for a week (Sept. 1999) while on our honeymoon and it would have been nice to be able to have a glass of champagne to celebrate our marriage. I’m not a drinker but I do like to have a drink occasionally. Good Luck!
Chrissy - May 5, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Chrissy, I’m sorry you could not have champagne with strawberries, as is the tradition of many honeymooners.
I was similarly bothered by the notion that I was still an illegal consumer on my 21st birthday. I drank beer while underage, like most New Albanians, but the local prohibition of that federal right of passage was very disappointing.
To be an adult and still be told you are not capable of choosing whether or not to drink is the ultimate source of all this blogging. I hope that global viewers of this site can detect the massive number of progressive Christians in the region that realize the foolishness of dry policies.
Hopefully by this fall, I can buy you a drink in New Albany, if your husband’s cool with it.
NA Son - May 11, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Well there ya go Chrissy – You now have a good reason to come down for a visit. NA Son can buy you one or five of those blue margaritas like ya had at Applebees. And your husband can buy me a Bud Light or 6. BUT don’t wait on New Albany to get wet – it is still very possible Hell will freeze over first.
Cindy - May 12, 2008 at 12:31 am
NA Son, I will take you up on that offer the next time I am in town, my husband said he doesn’t mind. We enjoy meeting new people and making friends along the way. Hopefully laws will have changed by then. Its a shame some people dont understand, just because you allow alcohol into your town doesn’t mean you will have deal with the drinking and driving issue anymore then it is an issue now. To me, I would think that it is more of a concern today with the county being “dry” then it would if alcohol was allowed and a taxi service was in place for that reason. I am sure there are folks in NA that enjoy coming home from work and having a beer or two even with the laws that are in place now, then you have those that have to travel 20 or so miles to Tupelo or where ever to be able to have that Midnight (blue) Margarita or a Bud Light with dinner out with friends because they are afraid to drink in their “dry” town. Either way, there are people drinking at home as we speak in NA, and there are those to afraid to even drink at home and heading down the road to a “wet” town to have their beverage of choice. I’m sorry your 21st birthday and right of passage as you put it was disapointing. I may be a terrible mother in some eyes after I state this, but, on my children’s 21st birthdays, I will be out at the bar with them, if they will be drinking and celebrating I will be there and sober to drive them home safely. It is responsibility that will make everything work. People that want to drink, will drink, DRY or WET town. Hope to meet you when I come to New Albany again and maybe we can all go out for a drink.
Chrissy - May 12, 2008 at 11:12 am
Does anyone else think printing petitions on the internet and sending them back in through the mail is the best way to get a response to this issue? If so, I would like to pursue this more and get the ball rolling. An organizational website can be built cheaply and would be a great way to get people interested. I’m even willing to pay to run some ads for a website in the papers, and hopefully some others will follow suite. Come on guys! We can wait no longer. Let’s make a commitment and stick to it.
Plus, I don’t want to undermine anything anyone is already doing. If someone is already doing this, let’s join them and support them. A few heads are better than one. We all need new ideas and how to employ them. I want to help, do you?
Ben Barnes - May 12, 2008 at 6:16 pm
I’m not sure but was told Logan Rutledge has some petitions. Why don’t you contact him and get a copy and place it on here for starters. Folks can print one, fill it out and mail it back to him or whoever is in charge of keeping the safe
Cindy - May 12, 2008 at 6:31 pm
I’m working on a website now. As soon as I get it arranged I will post a link here. I hope to complete in two weeks. Thanks for the heads up.
Ben Barnes - May 12, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Just so you all know, the petition will be available this week. Keep checking the site for the release. Get all of your friends and family to sign so we can finally vote on this issue. Again, people for and against legalization may sign. The petition is neutral. It’s your time to sign.
Email us: info@unioncountyunited.com
Coming Soon - May 31, 2008 at 9:48 am
I’m ready to sign !
Rick - May 31, 2008 at 6:56 pm
USA !!!!!! - June 1, 2008 at 2:51 am
Keep spreading the news! Its our TIME TO SIGN!
PROMOTE THE VOTE!!!
Jay - June 3, 2008 at 4:51 pm
I’ve sent in 5 signed petitions and more on the way
Tony - June 7, 2008 at 12:21 am
Tell everyone you see about the petition and encourage them to sign and send it in… Do it today – Don’t wait
Sign and Send - June 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm
I’m so excited about the alcohol petition. My family has all signed it and looking forward to this getting on the ballot in November.
Kay - June 8, 2008 at 10:48 pm
I’ve sent in 22 signed petitions – You guys get those petitions signed and sent in – Let’s move on with this!!!
PETITIONS - June 16, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Its a fine idea to be able to vote on alcohol in UC. My family and friends spend alot of time in Oxford. How nice it would be for NA to have some fun places with fabulous food especially around the downtown area. Kudos to UCUFP!
Drew - June 26, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Viva La Resistance!
Ben Barnes - August 10, 2008 at 6:06 pm
It is getting close!
nadrinks - August 10, 2008 at 9:03 pm
When will we know there are 1500 signatures?
David - August 10, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Seems to be a Bible Verse war going on at http://www.newalbanytalks.com. all the time. The prohibitionist can’t even represent the Bible correctly on what IT actually says about alcohol. Citizens are being threatened by some in local churches if they sign the petition.
Some seem to think that even taking a drink, having a glass a wine with dinner or a beer with a pizza or while watching a ball game or NASCAR race is sinful and is a one way ticket to hell.
It is sad that intellegent people will USE (misrepresent) the Word of God in order to support their personal opinions. While they must think those they are imposing their opinions upon are ignorant, WHAT is it saying about their thoughts on the intellegence of God?
NA BREW - August 13, 2008 at 11:57 pm
Bring on your opinions but we will not allow the Bible to be misused or abused on this blog!
We are for progress in Union County.
The issue is legalizing the sell and possession of alcohol not whether you and your preacher have a disagreement over the interpretation of what the Bible says about it.
NADRINKS - August 14, 2008 at 12:37 am
hy•poc•ri•sy-
1. a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess.
2. a pretense of having some desirable or publicly approved attitude.
http://www.newkscafe.com/index.php/menu/category/beverages/
Anybody read Mark Garrett’s Letter in the exchange?
Since he helps his son run a Newk’s Express Café in Oxford, it seems hypocritical to denounce alcohol, especially with Bud Light, Michelob Ultra, Coors Light, Miller Light, Heineken, Amstel Light and wine by the glass or by the bottle listed on the menu.
Mark argues: “the proponents paint a beautiful picture of the utopia that Union County will become with alcohol sales.”
This “straw-man” fallacy is reprehensible. No one has ever made this assumption. The argument has always been: Since most people are already drinkers and alcohols is possessed in New Albany homes, why not keep the revenues in the city and give businesses a chance to structure an entertainment facility that New Albanians have to leave the city in order to enjoy.
Another exert:
“the argument that we will get restaurants and new businesses and executives from Toyota and life will get so much better so we can ‘compete with Oxford and Tupelo’…
… if you want a small town atmosphere, close community ties, family oriented, and free from alcohol then there is one choice: New Albany.”
Since you have businesses in Tupelo and Oxford, we can all understand that your financial concerns are not primarily focused on New Albany, but to state it has an advantage through Prohibition is preposterous. I’d love to see the signs:
“We are the last dry bastion of hope. We know we’re sober, because it’s illegal!”
Outer - August 14, 2008 at 9:11 pm
The many faces of NA/UC. Full of hypocrites!
Faces - August 14, 2008 at 9:26 pm
I will add that his son is the named owner of Newk’s in Oxford, but the association hits awfully close to home.
Outer - August 14, 2008 at 9:27 pm
If NA becomes wet maybe Mark or his son will convert McAllisters into a Newk’s of New Albany and Bryant’s into an Oby’s or Ajax. Or Coctails and Dreams!
NA Drinks - August 14, 2008 at 9:34 pm
some people in this town would like for you to believe that they are wonderful saints by all that they do for this community. Well the truth is that most of them do all of this as a front….so that we can’t actually see what there ulterier motives are. Some of the people that yall put on a padestal in this town because they own a bunch of RESTURANTS (and do volunteer work for the community), or donated a park downtown, are actually out for themselves only. Not the good of the county. These people spend probably hundreds of thousands of dollars in other countys instead of spending it here. I know this fact to be true becuase I have witnessed it first hand. They would scrw over Union County in a heartbeat if it meant they would get something in return. Ohh and by the way Most of them drink occasionally. But they sing gosphel so its O.K.
And by the way these businessmen want you to do business at their places but they wont do business with you…Even though your the only business of that type in union county. They buy from Lee county…..First hand knowledge of this also.
tired of high and mightys putting up fronts - August 15, 2008 at 1:11 am
When we go to the polls, the hypocrites will be able to vote as they please without worry what others might say
Carol - August 15, 2008 at 1:47 am
I am voting for progress!
Cindy - August 15, 2008 at 2:19 am
Personal attacks should be avoided. I am excited that we may finally get to vote for or against alcohol. There is no need for the fine people of Union County to lower themselves to the campaign smears we so often see among politicians.
Times are changing - August 16, 2008 at 12:55 am
Personal attacks are being confused with counterpoints. No one was personally ridiculed for personal choices or behaviors, but when someone writes a letter to the editor making an argument, anyone may publicly support or disagree with its content.
Part of the counterpoint in this case is that several opponents of alcohol legislation in New Albany either have stock or own businesses in wet city/counties. That type of bias would recuse them from being on the jury if said businesses are involved in a legal battle. Personal opinion of these citizens might not be totally created by profit interests, but any argument given on economic grounds would be tainted.
The original post should have more emphasized or started with a more important aspect. The notion that “the proponents paint a beautiful picture of the utopia that Union County will become with alcohol sales,” is untrue. As I previously posted, the argument has always been:
Since most people are already drinkers and alcohols is possessed in New Albany homes, why not keep the revenues in the city and give businesses a chance to structure an entertainment facility that New Albanians have to leave the city in order to enjoy.
The method of attacking an argument that was never made is a trend several opponents have pulled. If this fallacy went unchecked, observers might infer that the “utopian” point had actually been made and then disagree with proponents on the issue, even thought the proponents never made the claim.
Outer - August 16, 2008 at 9:59 am
hopefully, the next issue of the news-exchange, maybe in the opinion section, will clarify some of this.
sippin' - August 17, 2008 at 10:43 pm
I am Voting for Progess! It is time Union County and New Albany benefit from the many dollars spent in our next door counties.
VOTE FOR PROGRESS - August 20, 2008 at 12:23 am
When going to the polls gets closer the prohibitionist are sure to get ugly and become even more judgemental than they have been thus far. Those of us who desire progress should keep our focus on our goal and not get caught up in the non-Christian tactics and words coming from some.
As a Christian for progress in NA/UC who enjoys a drink, No one has the authority or qualifications to place judgement on me or anyone else for that matter for choices made. God is in control of the judging department.
I’m excited about the possibilities the future holds for our community. Let’s stay on the right track and not let others derail us from our goals.
Leigh - August 20, 2008 at 11:41 pm
Hello….. Is there anybody out there!!!!!b
Just nod if you can hear me!!!! Is there anyone home???? Relax…its just a little pin prick I can ease your pain, get you on your feet again.
There is no pain, you are receding, the distant ships smoke on the horizon. I turn to look but it was gone …. I cannot put my finger on it now, the child has grown , the dream is gone. And I…….. have become , comfortably numb.
Joey Bramlitt - August 26, 2008 at 4:41 pm
It’s usually quiet around here… classic rock pink floyd tunes could liven the place up tho… keep on singin’
still waiting for the wall…. dark side of the moon would be nice too….
cindy - August 26, 2008 at 6:57 pm
God Bless America! We are English speaking Christians. Welcome to Democracy.
USA - August 28, 2008 at 10:14 pm
AMEN…..and no glad its not “allah bless America”, or ” In allah We Trust”.
Joey Bramlitt - August 28, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Still short on petitions. Keep getting signatures and send them in ASAP!
JR - August 29, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Someone on that other blog is trying to keep others from signing the petition by saying there are enough signatures.
Keep signing and sending them in TODAY!
hope for the vote - August 29, 2008 at 5:11 pm
there probably won’t even be enough … too many hypocrits …you’d think they’d man/woman up and step up to the plate so we can get this done…
whoever is saying there is enough needs to stop so people will continue to sign
signing time - August 29, 2008 at 5:17 pm
I just really wish that I could treat my fiance to a nice meal at the really nice restaraunts she likes to dine without having to drive ALL the way to Tupelo or Oxford…
MPG - August 31, 2008 at 9:51 pm
What is North Mississippi? Oxford – Tupelo – NEW ALBANY!
time for progress - September 2, 2008 at 7:41 pm
told ya we had way more than enough signatures…..and yall got mad at me and said that I was trying to sabotage this whole thing…you couldnt be further from the truth
Rock the Boat - September 7, 2008 at 9:24 am
Now it’s time to start campaigning! Economics – It’s not about moral opinions and Biblical interpretations – IT IS about Economics! The future in now! It is time for New Albany/Union County to open the doors of opportunity!
nadrinks - September 7, 2008 at 5:38 pm
thanks for noone believing in me when I told you a long time ago that we had plenty of votes…Preciate it. And that goes for u too cindy!!!!! You had no faith in me either…haha. J/K peps. This is bulldog by the way cindy.
Rock the Boat - September 8, 2008 at 4:25 pm
I knew there were enough signatures – I never doubted you! It was just a matter of keeping it quiet so others (prohibitionist)wouldn’t ROCK THE BOAT!
let’s move forward and get it voted in!
cindy - September 8, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Woohoo!!!!! time to campaign for PROGRESS! Urge family, friends and co-workers to get out and VOTE NOVEMBER 4 for Legal alcohol in Union County!
Barcardi - September 10, 2008 at 8:01 pm
My heaters broke and I’m so tired. I need some fuel to build a fire. The girl next door her lights are out, yeah. The landlord gone and I’m down and out. Ohh, Its Cold Gin time again, you know it’ll always win. Cold Gin time again , you know its the only thing that keeps us together.
It’s time to leave and get another quart. Around the corner at the liquor store. The cheapest stuff is all I need. To get me back on my feet again
It’s Cold Gin time again. You know it’ll always win. It’s Cold Gin time again. You know it’s the only thing that keeps us together.
Rock the Boat - September 13, 2008 at 12:37 am
As I was goin’ over the Cork and Kerry mountains
I saw Captain Farrell and his money he was countin’
I first produced my pistol and then produced my rapier
I said stand and deliver or the devil he may take ya
I took all of his money and it was a pretty penny
I took all of his money yeah I brought it home to Molly
She swore that she’d love me, never would she leave me
But the devil take that woman for you know she treat me easy
Musha rain dum-a-do-dum-a-da
Whack for my daddy-o
Whack for my daddy-o
There’s whiskey in the jar-o
Being drunk and weary I went to Molly’s chamber
Takin’ my money with me and I never knew the danger
For about six or maybe seven in walked Captain Farrell
I jumped up, fired off my pistols and I shot him with both barrels
Musha rain dum-a-do-dum-a-da
Whack for my daddy-o
Whack for my daddy-o
There’s whiskey in the jar-o
Now some men like the fishin’ and some men like the fowlin’
And some men like ta hear, ta hear cannon ball a roarin’
Me I like sleepin’ specially in my Molly’s chamber
But here I am in prison, here I am with a ball and chain yeah
Musha rain dum-a-do-dum-a-da
Whack for my daddy-o
Whack for my daddy-o
There’s whiskey in the jar-o
Whiskey in the jar-o
Musha rain dum-a-do-dum-a-da
Musha rain dum-a-do-dum-a-da
Musha rain dum-a-do-dum-a-da…
Rock the Boat - September 13, 2008 at 12:44 am
Encourage your friends and family to VOTE on November 4th for PROGRESS in Union County – Vote WET!
Yes To Progress - September 15, 2008 at 6:13 pm
What type campaigning are the “FORs” going to do? Anyone know or have ideas?
Jim - September 17, 2008 at 7:24 pm
LETS HAVE A WET DRY DEBATE !
daniel - September 18, 2008 at 1:41 pm
and who would you select to represent the wet side? and who would the wet side be facing in this debate?
sippin' - September 18, 2008 at 8:25 pm
forget debate….thats what we’ve been doing for months. I say lets just vote already. Let it lie till time to vote. Then pounce real hard and heavy so there can be no retaliation.
Joey Bramlitt - September 23, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Encourage your friends, family, neighbors, loved ones and complete strangers to get out and VOTE! AND to vote for PROGRESS!
Make a Splash - September 23, 2008 at 8:43 pm
This vote DOES matter and those who want Union County and New Albany to catch up and keep up with those growing communities around us better get out and vote YES TO PROGRESS. With the nation’s economy in the shape it is, how can anyone with a clear mind think NA/UC can survive without CHANGE? Get out and encourage everyone to vote YES to progress! Your family, friends, neighbors and loved ones and even those you don’t like. The opportunity to end PROHIBITION could not come at a better time. We ALL know it is time for a CHANGE in Union County/New Albany.
citizen for progress - September 24, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Vote FOR coming out from the dry law
sippin' - October 6, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Isn’t it a nice showing of yard signs around the county?
NA BREW - October 10, 2008 at 2:37 am
Your VOTE is private! On November 4th vote how you choose. No body can print or publish your private vote. DO NOT be intimadated! It is a good thing to vote “FOR” progress – coming out from the dry law.
You have the RIGHT to vote!
sippin' - October 14, 2008 at 12:02 am
Does anyone know where I can pick up a vote for progress sign at? Thanks so much!!
Heather - October 17, 2008 at 11:59 am
Tallahatchie Gourmet
Denise - October 17, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Urge your family and friends to vote FOR progress on November 4
8 days - October 27, 2008 at 3:14 am
A new order of “Vote FOR Progress” signs has been delivered to Tallahatchie Gourmet and Sugaree’s Bakery in downtown New Albany. Get your sign soon. They are going fast!
Vote FOR coming out from under the dry law.
Vote FOR Progress signs - October 27, 2008 at 10:49 am
Urge your family and friends to get out and vote – to vote FOR progress – coming out from under the dry law.
1 week - October 29, 2008 at 7:15 pm
2 signs in my yard!
signs - October 29, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Make your vote count! Vote FOR coming out from the dry law which is a vote for progress! Urge your family and friends to get out and vote FOR!
It is Time - November 3, 2008 at 3:16 am
I will be voting FOR the citizens of Union County to have a reason to stay in Union County! I will be voting FOR keeping Union County money in Union County – I will be voting FOR local economic growth – I will be voting FOR more jobs and opportunities – I will be voting FOR Union County and New Albany to prosper – I will be voting FOR coming out of the dry law! Yes, I WILL be voting FOR progress!
Cindy Wood - November 3, 2008 at 10:55 pm
I can’t wait to VOTE FOR BEER in the SPRING!!! Since I prefer wine, I’ll just continue to sneak it into our “dry” county and hide it in a closet.
N.A. Mama, - November 4, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Time to get ready for the BEER vote … Spring will be here soon!!
NA Brew - November 10, 2008 at 12:29 am
NA MAMA, hmmm, is that your true colors shining thru?
sippin' - November 10, 2008 at 1:59 am